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Dyno or Dynamometer results sheet, and Correction Factors

Here is a subject that sounds complicated.  Don't worry Its not!  You look at your dynamometer print out and see that CF 0.9081 or CF 1.0973 number on your !  And its very important!

Basically what we want a dynamometer to do is give us the same result (say 100bhp) on the same engine every time we dynamometer test it!  Because if you go away, fit some different parts, change jets, or whatever you want to compare the new result at a later time right?  Otherwise the figures are useless!

Well here is the problem...    You shove your you car / bike on the dynamometer Monday night...  Its cool, say 10 degrees Centigrade.  You do a run and it measures 100 BHP!    Great!

 

Now you go away and do NOTHING to your car and return on Tuesday in the middle of the day.  Its 25 degrees C and a lovely warm day!   You now re dyno test your car, and guess what, It makes only 94 BHP.  Is it broke? No!  Its just breathing in warmer air which is less dense!   So we need a formula that looks at the air temperature that your engine is breathing in and "CORRECTS" the power figures to a known standard temperature.  Easy.  Now, using this correction factor, whatever the air temperature your engine will always read the same 100 BHP.

But there is another small problem...  On some days there is a also a "higher" or "lower" atmospheric pressure too!  (Look at your barometer) So when the pressure is "high" your engine will make more power so the dyno shows your 100 BHP engine is now 104 BHP...  So we now need another formula that corrects the measured power for atmospheric pressure variations too!  So we use another "correction" so that your engine will now read 100 BHP regardless of both air temperature, or atmospheric pressures. 

In addition Humidity makes a "very small" difference too!   But this is usually ignored by most manufacturers. So we will too.  It is worth mentioning though that humid air actually costs power, rather than the common belief that it helps!  It doesn't. It replaces part of the air/oxygen in the atmosphere.

So provided that our new formulas (now lumped together and called correction factors) works as it should we should be able to read the same 100 BHP from our Corrected Dynamometer figures under all conditions.  This means you can directly compare figures on different days and conditions & locations. (the pressure at the sea is much higher than if you live in the mountains!)

   

So your car will read 100BHP at the top of a high mountain, on a hot day when the pressure is low, as it would at sea level in winter on a high pressure day!  At least that's the plan!

This pressure and temperature data has to be measured, and entered as figures, or sensed automatically depending on which dynamometer system we are using directly just before each "run" is made.  If this is not done the data or graph will not be accurate!

Now this is the bit that's confusing people.  It had to come!

There is more than one correction factor!  None are perfect. All are a simplistic compromise.  But its the best we have!  In my own software, I have a choice of four different ones that are commonly used, and uncorrected for raw data or electric vehicles:

  • SAE-J1349   the one that seems to work best! And is used by lots of dyno companies as default.

  • DIN 70020   Also popular, and used by people who like bigger numbers! In a lot of conditions it gives figures a few percent higher than the rest.

  • EEC 80/1269

  • ISO 1585

  • Uncorrected

If you choose a run and display a power curve in my own dyno software you can choose from these 5 options to see how it effects the measured power. They are all different, but all are correct!  This is where a lot of the "disagreements" about power figures arise!

See its not "that" painful!


A word of warning!  If you have a print out, that just says "corrected" throw it away. Its meaningless and most likely came from a cheap dodgy dyno, that was built by someone with no idea!  I have seen lots of these, be warned!  That was only the FIRST problem with the data!

If you call your dyno company up, and ask them "to what standard" their data is corrected to, and they do not know, HANG UP!  Go somewhere else.  If you are thinking of BUYING a dyno, or dynamometer the same thing applies, but this time run!

If they don't use any correction factor at all be really afraid!  You are surrounded by  a) IDIOTS or  b) people who only test electric vehicles!
 


YOU DON'T NEED TO READ THIS BIT!!!

Here is the ACTUAL formula, not that you really need to understand it for SAE J1349:

SAE J1349 JUN90, converted to pressure in mb, is:

                                          

                      where:     cf = the dyno correction factor
                                     Pd = the pressure of the dry air, mb
                                     Tc = ambient temperature, deg C

No humidity correction is used for good reason.

Temp and pressure have a direct and predictable effect on all engines pretty equally. And it is quite a marked effect that requires correction to allow comparrison from one run to the next.Here correction for temperature and pressure is both accurate and simple.

Humidity is a little different. On a highly tuned motor that may be turbocharged or have lower octane fuel than the compression really requires the added humidity allows the thing to make more power as it reduces detonation possibilities and improves combustion.


On the majority of vehicles it causes a reduction in power as it displaces some of the air that would otherwise have been inducted meaning that there is less oxygen which results is a richer mixture on some engines and just less power on others that use a closed loop system to control mixture. Unless they were running a little lean (for economy/environmental reasons??) and then the less available oxygen may actually help correct the mixture and either no power will be lost or some gained...


So its not really possible or even desirable to try and add a correction for humidity.  It doesn't help.
 

 

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